Raiders of the Lost Ark: A Retrospective on Adventure and Innovation
This episode centers on a comprehensive exploration of the cinematic masterpiece, *Raiders of the Lost Ark*, which is regarded as a seminal work in the action-adventure genre. We delve into the film's significant impact on popular culture, highlighting its groundbreaking storytelling and the iconic character of Indiana Jones. Through a meticulous examination of the production history, casting decisions, and behind-the-scenes anecdotes, we unravel the intricate tapestry that contributed to the film's enduring legacy. Additionally, we engage in insightful discussions about key scenes, character dynamics, and the film's influence on subsequent cinematic endeavors. Join us as we navigate the exhilarating world of archaeology and adventure, offering our perspectives on this timeless classic.
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The podcast delves into the illustrious cinematic journey of the 1981 film Raiders of the Lost Ark, a hallmark of the adventure genre that introduced audiences to the iconic character of Indiana Jones, portrayed by Harrison Ford. The discussion encompasses the film's remarkable production history, including its inception by legendary filmmakers George Lucas and Steven Spielberg, and the myriad of casting decisions that could have dramatically altered the trajectory of the franchise. The hosts, Chris Adams and Martin Phillips, explore the film’s profound impact on popular culture, delineating how it redefined action adventure narratives and infused a sense of excitement into the field of archaeology, previously perceived as a mundane pursuit. They recount fascinating behind-the-scenes anecdotes, such as the improvised decision by Ford to shoot the sword-wielding adversary, which not only showcased the actor's quick wit but also added a layer of humor that became emblematic of the series.
Takeaways:
- Raiders of the Lost Ark is a seminal film that fundamentally reshaped the action-adventure genre, setting new standards for cinematic storytelling.
- The film's pre-production history reveals numerous challenges, including casting decisions that could have dramatically altered its iconic character, Indiana Jones.
- The improvisation during the filming of the famous sword fight scene exemplifies the creativity and adaptability of the cast and crew under unexpected circumstances.
- The portrayal of archaeology in Raiders of the Lost Ark sparked a renewed interest in the field, demonstrating how popular culture can influence public perception of academic disciplines.
- Harrison Ford's performance as Indiana Jones remains unparalleled, combining charm and physicality to create an enduring cinematic hero.
- The film's significant box office success and critical acclaim highlight its cultural impact, making it a lasting classic that continues to be celebrated today.
Transcript
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Speaker B:Hello, everybody.
Speaker B:Welcome back to the podcast Retro Life for you.
Speaker B:My name is Chris Adams, host of the show, and today with me is Mr. Martin Phillips.
Speaker A:Hello.
Speaker B:Welcome back to the show, Marty.
Speaker B:Like I said, I keep telling you, we're always going to find ways to bring you back on.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker B:And that's what we did.
Speaker B: use today we're going back to: Speaker B:This is the movie that gave us Indiana Jones.
Speaker B:It redefined the action adventure genre and made archaeology look a whole lot cooler than just digging in the dirt.
Speaker B:Directed by Steven Spielberg, dreamed up by George Lucas and brought to life by Harrison Ford, Raiders is more than just a blockbuster.
Speaker B:It's a pop culture landmark.
Speaker B:In this episode, we're breaking down the film's wild pre production story.
Speaker B:The casting choices that almost changed indie forever.
Speaker B:Behind the scenes trivia that proves just how crazy this shoot was.
Speaker B:And of course, we'll dive into some fun discussion questions to get you thinking.
Speaker B:So buckle up because fortune and glory, kid.
Speaker B:Fortune and glory awaits.
Speaker A:That is right.
Speaker A:That is.
Speaker B:Oh, we're gonna talk some Raiders of the Lost Ark.
Speaker B:So, Marty, Marty, Marty.
Speaker B:Martin.
Speaker B:Martin.
Speaker B:Am I gonna call you Martin or Marty?
Speaker B:What am I gonna do here?
Speaker A:Hey, you know me forever.
Speaker A:Call me Marty.
Speaker B:I'm gonna just call you Martin.
Speaker B:Oh, you're right.
Speaker B:I've known you forever.
Speaker B:Hey, what is that we were discussing a little bit before this started?
Speaker B:You said it's been a little while since you've actually seen the movie, but you practically know the movie inside and out.
Speaker B:It feels like when actually you said was the last time, though, about a.
Speaker A:Month ago, it was on Paramount.
Speaker A:It was on one of the Paramount channels on, on just regular tv.
Speaker A:And I was just, I was cruising around on her boat and all of a sudden I saw it.
Speaker A:It was like, it was at the park where Marion and Indy were at her bar.
Speaker A:And he was basically slapping the money in her hand and saying, give me the, give me the medallion.
Speaker A:And she was like, come back in the morning, Indiana Jones.
Speaker A:Right, that's where I came in and watched it all the way straight through.
Speaker B:You know, I started to say Pluto.
Speaker B:Not Pluto, but the other channel that has its own little, you know, TV set up with movie channels and such.
Speaker B:It plays this quite often.
Speaker B:It plays this and the other movies all in a row.
Speaker B:I was like the first Four movies, anyway.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:You know, the first three, plus the one that a lot of other people don't like to claim, Kingdom of the Christmas Goal.
Speaker B:Although I didn't think that was too.
Speaker A:Bad, to tell you the truth.
Speaker A:That movie, when I first watched it, I didn't really care for it too much.
Speaker A:But after I've watched it a couple of more.
Speaker A:More times, I actually.
Speaker A:It actually growed on me.
Speaker A:It does.
Speaker A:It's still not my favorite Indiana Jones movie, but the third movie, hands down, is my favorite with Sean Connery and the Last Crusade.
Speaker B:Keep that in mind.
Speaker B:I'm gonna ask about that later.
Speaker B:Keep that in mind.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:For me, I actually watched it yesterday.
Speaker B:I was looking for.
Speaker B:Maybe it was Friday night.
Speaker B:No, don't.
Speaker B:I guess yesterday was Friday night for us.
Speaker B:We're recording on Saturday this week instead of Sunday.
Speaker B:I have other obligations on Sunday this week, but Thursday night I think it was.
Speaker B:I watched it.
Speaker B:I was looking for something to do and nothing else was going on.
Speaker B:I said, well, got this coming up tomorrow.
Speaker B:I need to watch this again.
Speaker B:You know, prepare.
Speaker B:And I.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker B:It's like going back in time, man.
Speaker B:It's like.
Speaker B:It's been a while since I've seen it, to be honest.
Speaker B:I've seen Part three a ton of times.
Speaker B:The second one, it's been on TV more often than the first one, it seems like.
Speaker B:Which I never really got because I thought this was better than the second one, in my opinion.
Speaker B:But, you know.
Speaker A:Yeah, I mean, I agree with you totally, writers.
Speaker A:And then Temple of Doom was not.
Speaker A:I mean, Temple of Doom had at the moments when I like the movie, but overall it was.
Speaker A:It just seemed more goofy than.
Speaker A:Than it was like a realistic movie.
Speaker B:It didn't bring a short round, though.
Speaker B:We got that.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So George Lucas conceived the idea.
Speaker B:Jumping into some pre production notes here.
Speaker B: ceived this idea in the early: Speaker B:It was inspired by the 30s and 40s movie types of adventure.
Speaker B:Like, similar to this.
Speaker B:He wanted something more modern and updated.
Speaker B:Lucas shelved it until after Star wars success.
Speaker B:And then he pitched it to Steven Spielberg, who wanted to direct a James Bond film at the time.
Speaker B:And I guess he wasn't getting that, so he brought this up to him and sounded good to him.
Speaker B:And yeah, we kind of go from there.
Speaker A:You know what's crazy, he actually does work with a James Bond by the.
Speaker A:By the third.
Speaker A:Maybe John Connery.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:That's kind of cool.
Speaker B:Right, Right.
Speaker B:He didn't get to exactly, you know, do the James Bond direct.
Speaker B:The James Bond film at that time, but he got to work with James Bond later, so can't go wrong with that.
Speaker A:Right, right.
Speaker B:And of course, George Lucas and Steven Spielberg, two huge names at that time.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:Star wars and Jaws.
Speaker B:And it was fun.
Speaker B:Don't forget E.T.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A: So, I mean, that: Speaker B:I think was 81, possibly.
Speaker B:Okay, 81 or 82.
Speaker A:So the Raiders and E.T.
Speaker A:came out the same year.
Speaker B:I don't think it was same year, although they were close to each other.
Speaker B:We can see.
Speaker B:You know, it's not hard to find out.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:We just step away from Google.
Speaker B: ET was: Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So E. T was 82 and Raiders was 81.
Speaker A:Which.
Speaker A:Both are good movies.
Speaker B:Yes, absolutely.
Speaker B:Jumping up a little bit here to.
Speaker B:Let's see, the budget of the film was 20 million.
Speaker B:Spielberg signed on to direct, Lucas produced it.
Speaker B:And then the screenplay by Lawrence was a Kazden, I believe.
Speaker B:Lawrence Kasdan, who helped with the Empire Strikes Back.
Speaker B:Where or might have wrote it, I don't know.
Speaker B:But it's got his name with Empire Strikes Back on it for sure.
Speaker A:So what do you.
Speaker A:What do you think that would equal up to today?
Speaker A: million back in: Speaker A:Yeah, like a budget.
Speaker A:Like.
Speaker A: Like in: Speaker B:I'm not.
Speaker B:I'm not sure how much inflation brings that up.
Speaker B:If I'm just throwing it down, like.
Speaker A:80 to $100 million.
Speaker B:That's what I was gonna say.
Speaker B:If I'm throwing a number out there, I was gonna say about 80 to 90 million.
Speaker A:May @ least.
Speaker B:That's just me guessing.
Speaker B:I'm not.
Speaker B:I'm not really up to par on that kind of stuff, so I can't really say for certain.
Speaker B:What do you think about the fact of Tom Selleck being the original choice for Indiana Jones?
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:In my opinion, I cannot see anybody else other than Harrison Ford.
Speaker A:I mean, I know.
Speaker A:I know they.
Speaker A:I know they probably threw, you know, like a lot of, you know, like maybe Tom Selleck or Sam Elliott or.
Speaker A:I mean, they could have.
Speaker A:They could have went with.
Speaker A:I don't know who to play Indiana Jones.
Speaker A:But after just saying, you know, the first time seeing Raiders and then knowing Harrison Ford from the Star wars movies, I mean, it was just.
Speaker A:Just flowed real well for me.
Speaker A:It did.
Speaker B:I don't think Tom Selleck would have.
Speaker B:Had.
Speaker B:Would have brought the same charm and wit to the Indiana Jones character that Harrison Ford does.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's almost like he was made for it.
Speaker B:He was built for it.
Speaker B:Tom Selleck has some great movies, but it's just not.
Speaker B:It would not have been quite the same to it.
Speaker A:Yeah, that.
Speaker A:That almost kind of.
Speaker A:Because it was believable action and it almost.
Speaker A:The.
Speaker A:The comedic parts and Indian.
Speaker A:Well, in Raiders of Lost Ark was really, you know, just the whole.
Speaker A:I don't want to say too much about it, but you know, the whole part where the guy with the turbine, he's throwing the sword back and forth and he's spinning.
Speaker A:He's moving the sword and everything.
Speaker A:Paris support just pulls out the pistol.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker B:You know what?
Speaker B:Let's go ahead.
Speaker B:Give me one more second here and we'll.
Speaker B:We'll touch on that.
Speaker B:But I want to say one thing, and I want to bring that back up to you.
Speaker B:I think everything really and truly happens for a reason, like most everything else in life does.
Speaker B:And the fact that Tom Selleck didn't get this job because he was doing it.
Speaker B:That stupid TV show he was into.
Speaker B:I think it was called Magnum P.I.
Speaker B:surely that was.
Speaker B:I'm sure that.
Speaker B:I'm sure that flopped.
Speaker B:Probably, right?
Speaker B:No.
Speaker B:So he made a great decision in what he did.
Speaker B:Sticking with that.
Speaker B:That was his bread and butter at the time.
Speaker B:He was able to have some great movies after the fact that fit his type of role, that fit his character.
Speaker A:Now, when did Tom saw it?
Speaker A:Dude, Quickly down under, that was mid-80s.
Speaker B:We just did this a couple weeks ago and, you know, I've already forgotten what year it came out without looking it up.
Speaker B:Quickly down under was what I was getting at.
Speaker B:The type of movies I think he's great at.
Speaker B: Quickly down under was: Speaker B:He does some great western type things.
Speaker B:Shadow Riders was great with.
Speaker B:You know, I think that's one with him and Sam Elliott in it playing brothers.
Speaker B:Quigley down under was great.
Speaker B:He had those detective movies, Jesse Stone, I think they were called.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:What was the one that he went to prison?
Speaker A:Was that called An Innocent Man?
Speaker B:That was called An Innocent man, yeah.
Speaker B:I'm gonna come and cover.
Speaker B:We're gonna cover that with one of these days, you know, since you brought it up, you're gonna be the one to come on now.
Speaker B:That might be.
Speaker B:That might be our next one.
Speaker B:We do.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker B:Yeah, then the same man was a great movie as well.
Speaker B:And then he went on to do one of my favorite things he ever did, which was Blue Bloods.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I thought he was built for that character too, so.
Speaker B:But back to what you said a while ago, the.
Speaker B:The sword's been coming out, you know, Looking all fancy and everything.
Speaker B:And he just get a little pulls again.
Speaker A:I'm tired of dealing with it, you know.
Speaker B:Do you know why that happened?
Speaker B:Did you know why it happened?
Speaker B:It was improvised.
Speaker B:Did you know that part?
Speaker A:I didn't know that.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:The famous scene in which Indy shoots the marauding and flamboyant swordsman was not in the original script.
Speaker B:Harrison Ford was supposed to use his whip to get the sword out of the attacker's hands.
Speaker B:But the food poisoning he and the rest of the crew had gotten made him too sick to perform this stunt.
Speaker B:After several unsuccessful tries, Ford suggests, and just shooting the sucker, Steven Spielberg immediately took him up on the idea.
Speaker B:And the scene was a successfully filmed at that point.
Speaker B:So worked out just fine.
Speaker B:I thought that was great.
Speaker B:I didn't know it was improvised either.
Speaker B:I thought that's how they wrote it.
Speaker B:And I was like, no, they wanted more fancy type actions.
Speaker B:Going to catch it with the whip.
Speaker A:And yank it out, you know, which I can see that because I mean the, all, all the Indiana Jones movies, they had like a typical type of action, but they also had a typical type of humor to them also.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:And, and you know that that whole with the thing with the sword and the guy and, and him just shooting him, you know that, that just played towards that humor, right?
Speaker B:Absolutely.
Speaker B:Spielberg said he considers it the most perfect film of the series.
Speaker B:He never wanted to modify it or change anything about it.
Speaker B:That's odd too, you know, for a director to really be satisfied with, with their, their, even with their finished output.
Speaker B:A lot of times the directors will tell.
Speaker B:We'll go back and tell you, well, we could have went back and done this better.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Or I would have changed this to that, now that I look back at it.
Speaker B:But you know, you don't see that with this.
Speaker B:He said it's, you know, the most perfect film of the series.
Speaker A:But do you think maybe there might have been scenes that they had cut from the movie because they were working on a time?
Speaker B:I mean there's, there's, there's always scenes that hit the cutting room floor that never make it.
Speaker B:I, you know, I'm not sure if there was any or how many there was.
Speaker B:I've never really seen a behind the scenes thing on Raiders of the Lost Star to see if there was any kind of cutting room stuff that didn't make it.
Speaker B:Yeah, I'd be willing to, I'd be willing to bet there is though.
Speaker A:Maybe one day, maybe one day we'll get a director's cut with added scenes you know, like the blu ray or 4k.
Speaker B:Yeah, you never know.
Speaker B:You never know.
Speaker B:So we started the cast already.
Speaker B:Harrison Ford, Indiana Jones, we know him from Star wars is Han Solo, and later in Blade Runner.
Speaker B:As far as his early 80s stuff goes, later on, of course, he'd go into a lot of great movies that he had done.
Speaker B:One of my favorite movies he done later on was Air Force One.
Speaker A:What did you think about Patriot Games?
Speaker A:Did you like that movie?
Speaker B:Patriot Games was good.
Speaker B:Clear and present.
Speaker B:Danger was good.
Speaker B:I like them.
Speaker B:Both of those.
Speaker B:He was playing Jack Ryan.
Speaker B:I believe in those, right?
Speaker A:Yeah, Jack Ryan.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah, both were good.
Speaker B:He also.
Speaker B:Let's see, we have another one later down the line.
Speaker A:He did that one maybe.
Speaker A:I think.
Speaker A:I think it might have been in the late 80s or early 90s.
Speaker A:But did you ever see the movie Regarding Henry or.
Speaker B:You know, I never really watched it.
Speaker B:I mean, honestly, I never really watched it, and I know a lot of people had watched it and it just didn't seem like it would be my type of movie that I would enjoy.
Speaker B:So I never.
Speaker A:It's a really.
Speaker A:It's a really, like, pull on your heartstrings type maybe.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:And I just didn't know if it was one now, that don't mean I wouldn't go back and watch it today because we go back and watch movies all the time now.
Speaker B:For the podcast that we hadn't.
Speaker B:I hadn't.
Speaker B:Like last week, we have Rounders coming out, is our next episode coming up, and it'll already be out by the time this hits the, you know, download for everybody.
Speaker B:So Rounders is already out and about with us.
Speaker B:But I'd never seen Rounders before and I watched it.
Speaker B:I had never seen Sin City when we did it, or who Framed Roger Rabbit.
Speaker B:I'd never seen either one of those.
Speaker B:And I watched them for the podcast.
Speaker B:So, I mean, that's the one.
Speaker B:Like Travis said, it's one great thing about the podcast for both of us is that we're both getting to see things that we didn't watch before that we wasn't quite sure of, that we're taking the chance on now and actually finding out we're enjoying it.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And we're talking about things else that, you know, Harrison Ford done.
Speaker B:Of course, you get the feuds.
Speaker B:How can we forget the Fugitive?
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:So, you know, the one hour the one armed bandit.
Speaker B:Had his spot in Expendables 3, right?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Cowboys and Aliens.
Speaker B:I mean, just, you know.
Speaker A:Oh, I know this goes on and on.
Speaker A:And on and on.
Speaker A:I don't know, like, countless numbers of really good movies.
Speaker B:Yeah, but we could talk all night about all these good movies, but we won't do that because they'll take time away from everybody else.
Speaker B:Such as?
Speaker B:Such as Karen Allen.
Speaker B:She played Marion Ravenwood.
Speaker A:Made Marion.
Speaker B:That's what I said earlier.
Speaker B:You corrected me.
Speaker B:Not made Marion Ravenwood.
Speaker A:Yeah, you remember.
Speaker A:You remember Marion's dad's name?
Speaker A:One.
Speaker A:One Indian.
Speaker A:Her in the bar.
Speaker B:Oh, God.
Speaker B:He's the one from the.
Speaker B:He's the one from the crystal skull that they thought was dead.
Speaker B:He thought was dead.
Speaker A:No, it's.
Speaker B:That's not him.
Speaker A:No, that's not him.
Speaker A:The.
Speaker A:Her.
Speaker A:Her dad's name.
Speaker A:He's all like, uh.
Speaker A:He's.
Speaker A:He's like, where's Abner?
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And she's like, he passed away.
Speaker B:So that's not the guy that plays the person in the crystal skull, then?
Speaker A:No.
Speaker B:Okay, my bad.
Speaker B:I thought it was the same person.
Speaker B:See, this is why we bring you on.
Speaker B:This is why you make the big bucks that I don't pay out.
Speaker B:It's always good.
Speaker B:So what else do you remember her from?
Speaker B:Is there anything big for you that you remember her in as well, that you enjoyed?
Speaker A:I remember her and Christopher Reeves did a movie together, didn't they?
Speaker B:Off top of my head.
Speaker B:Don't remember the only.
Speaker B:The only other thing I remember her from.
Speaker B:Mostly you have Animal House and Starman.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember those.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:With Jeff Burgess.
Speaker B:I want to say.
Speaker B:She was in Scrooge, too, wasn't she?
Speaker A:Screwed.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Bill Murray.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So, I mean, I'm just.
Speaker B:I'm just now getting her page loaded up.
Speaker B:She's in quite a bit of things, of course, with television appearances, too, and everything, but.
Speaker A:Yeah, I could have sworn she was in a movie with Christian Rage.
Speaker B:I mean, she may have.
Speaker B:It doesn't.
Speaker B:I don't know for sure what it would be, but she may have been.
Speaker B:Yeah, I guess that would have been back in the 80s, wouldn't it?
Speaker A:It.
Speaker A:Yeah, it would have.
Speaker A:Well, just like Starman and Animal House, that was.
Speaker A:I mean, I think Animal House might have been the 70s.
Speaker B:A 78.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:But I know Starman was definitely in.
Speaker B:The 80s and Starman was 84.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So Jeff Bridges.
Speaker B:You mentioned Jeff Bridges.
Speaker B:I know.
Speaker B:Now, that was Starman.
Speaker B:Wasn't it?
Speaker B:Just Starman?
Speaker A:Y.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:That was Jeff Bridges.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I'm not sure about Christopher.
Speaker B:I had.
Speaker B:I'd have to tie.
Speaker B:I'd have to search her and Christopher Reeve together.
Speaker B:To see what movie had pulled up with them and everything.
Speaker B:Not entirely sure on that.
Speaker B:But she later reprised her role as Marion Ravenwood in Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And she had, like, a little bit of a cameo at the end of dollar Destiny.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B: little short that was made in: Speaker B:I'm looking right here.
Speaker B:Indiana Jones and the Treasure of the Aztecs.
Speaker B:It's just a little short thing.
Speaker B:A little short film or something that she has a voice in.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:It's got something to do with the video game or something.
Speaker B:Or just something in.
Speaker B:In reference to the Dial of Destiny, because it's the same year.
Speaker B:Might have something to do with a little play on that for the dial.
Speaker B:Destiny.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Most likely that's what it is.
Speaker B:Paul Freeman was.
Speaker B:We were saying.
Speaker B:Belloc.
Speaker B:We were saying earlier, as I've said before, Dr. Jones, there's nothing you can't find that I can't take from you.
Speaker B:The opposing.
Speaker A:He holds up the idol, and he's all like.
Speaker A:And he's.
Speaker A:And then.
Speaker A:Then Andy's running.
Speaker A:He's all like.
Speaker A:And then they go chasing.
Speaker B:Yeah, the.
Speaker B:And of course, he makes another.
Speaker B:Well, all through the movie, obviously.
Speaker B:But, I mean, it's.
Speaker B:It's funny every time you find.
Speaker B:It's like every time you find something that he picks up, he's on his tail to take it from him, to claim credit for it and everything.
Speaker A:Well.
Speaker A:Well, he actually tells him when.
Speaker A:When he sells her.
Speaker A:When he sells her and him and the Crypt.
Speaker A:He says, Maybe in about 100 years on, I'll come and dig you up, and then you'll be upon.
Speaker A:And I was like, dude, that's hard, right?
Speaker B:That's terrible.
Speaker B:Oh, my God.
Speaker B:What is he.
Speaker B:Was he in anything else notable?
Speaker B:Let's see.
Speaker B:Because I don't.
Speaker B:I mean, he's just one of those characters that I know him from that one thing.
Speaker B:I don't recognize him from other stuff, but I'm gonna be surprised, probably.
Speaker B:I know.
Speaker A:I know.
Speaker A:To tell you the truth, I literally just recognize him just from writers.
Speaker A:I mean, he could have been in other stuff, but.
Speaker B:No, I'm.
Speaker B:I'm scrolling through his list of accomplishments.
Speaker B:He's got some TV stuff that he was on and, you know, things I wouldn't have seen him in.
Speaker B:And there's a ton of movies in here that, honestly, I just didn't watch and don't know about.
Speaker B:Now Ace is Iron Eagle 3.
Speaker B:I remember that he was in that.
Speaker A:Oh, okay.
Speaker B:I think he's one of the owners of one of the older planes that was fighting alongside Chappie.
Speaker B:Yeah, I believe it's.
Speaker B:I believe that's what he was in that.
Speaker B:Now that I remember.
Speaker B:Think about it.
Speaker B:So, yeah, like I said, I knew I'd find something I guess I knew him in and forgot about.
Speaker B:Yeah, but that looks like the only thing, though.
Speaker B:I mean, I don't recognize him from anything else.
Speaker B:It's got him listed.
Speaker B:It's nothing that I watched, anyway.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:Anyway, that being said, we got Denholm, Elliott, Marcus Brody.
Speaker B:You know, there's like a favorite of a lot of people when it comes to the Indiana Jones movies.
Speaker B:When it comes to the.
Speaker B:My favorite and your favorite, the Last Crusade, he's got the.
Speaker B:He's got the.
Speaker B:The book.
Speaker B:The little diary, I guess, that his dad.
Speaker B:That Indiana's dad was writing stuff in.
Speaker B:And Indiana's telling him, says, you'll never catch him.
Speaker B:The man speaks 20 different languages.
Speaker A:12 different languages.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:He blends in.
Speaker B:And then it cuts to him.
Speaker B:He's looking lost.
Speaker B:Excuse me.
Speaker B:Excuse me, won't you?
Speaker B:It's like.
Speaker B:It's like looking at C3.
Speaker B:A human being.
Speaker A:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker A:I was like.
Speaker B:He's like, excuse me, people, can you direct me to.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And then he runs into the Germans, and they were all like.
Speaker A:They were all like Dr. Brody or.
Speaker A:Or was it Professor Brody?
Speaker A:Professor, yeah.
Speaker A:And they.
Speaker A:They kind of, you know, bowed at him and stuff, and he was like, whoa.
Speaker B:Do you remember?
Speaker B:And I know you have to remember, we just talked about him in another movie recently.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:Toy soldiers.
Speaker B:Toy soldiers, yeah.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker B:He's been quite a few.
Speaker A:Was he the Dane?
Speaker B:He was the.
Speaker B:I want to say he was the dean of the school.
Speaker B:And Sam.
Speaker B:I mean, Samuel Jackson.
Speaker B:My lord.
Speaker B:Lou Gossip Jr.
Speaker B:Played the.
Speaker B:Kind of like the head.
Speaker B:No, no, he was the headmaster.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:And Luda.
Speaker B:Oh, my God.
Speaker B:I started saying, lou Diamond Phillips.
Speaker B:Lou Gossip Jr.
Speaker B:I can't talk tonight.
Speaker B:Lucas Jr. Was the dean.
Speaker B:I. I think that's how it went.
Speaker B:So, yeah, let's.
Speaker B:Let's get out of that before I mess up another name and butcher somebody else's legacy there.
Speaker B:John Reese Davies.
Speaker B:Another favorite of the Indiana Jones series.
Speaker B:He's a favorite also in another series.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Lord of the Rings.
Speaker B:Gimli.
Speaker A:Gimli.
Speaker A:Except.
Speaker A:Except he lost a lot of.
Speaker A:I lost a lot of height.
Speaker B:Yeah, he's a little bit shorter there.
Speaker B:Had a great TV series for a while, too.
Speaker B:Do you remember?
Speaker A:Oh.
Speaker A:Oh, man.
Speaker B:Sliders.
Speaker A:Yeah, that was my show.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Sliders.
Speaker B:Fun.
Speaker B:Show.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:He's not for a good while.
Speaker A:So we have four seasons.
Speaker B:At least four, Four or five seasons.
Speaker B:One of the two.
Speaker B:I'm not sure which is.
Speaker B:But it is one of the two.
Speaker B:Four or five seasons.
Speaker B:There was a surprise person in here for both of us that we did not know.
Speaker A:I was like.
Speaker B:Because I asked you, I said, do you remember him in this?
Speaker B:What did he play?
Speaker B:And then he played the characters.
Speaker B:And Satipo, I think it is.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And you were like, oh, no, that's the guy at the beginning.
Speaker B:It's just the dude who's like, throw me the idol.
Speaker B:Throw me the idol.
Speaker B:I'll throw you the whip.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Then he leaves him for dead.
Speaker B:But Alfred Molina.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Played Doc Ock in the Spider man movie.
Speaker B:Played.
Speaker B:I forget his character name.
Speaker B:I think it was angel and Maverick, the movie Maverick.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:Been in quite.
Speaker B:And he was also the bad guy in Texas Rangers, the guy they were after in that movie.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:Have you seen Texas Rangers?
Speaker A:I have not.
Speaker A:You.
Speaker A:You told me a couple of times that I need to watch it, so I will break down.
Speaker B:Do you like Young Guns?
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:Do you like American Outlaws?
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:You will love Texas Rangers.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:I promise.
Speaker B:Along the same lines, at least.
Speaker B:But I will see what.
Speaker B:We were surprised to see Alfred Molina in her, though.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I mean, and.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And he's not so recognizable because it's like, you know, Alfred Molina, because I. I don't want to say it's just because of, like, you know, how.
Speaker A:How big of a presence he is in the movies and everything, but in.
Speaker A:In Raiders, he looked real kind of.
Speaker A:I don't know, kind of muscular and a little bit thinner and.
Speaker A:But he was.
Speaker A:He was almost flying like a.
Speaker A:Like a Mexican guy's role.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:And he had.
Speaker A:And he had, like a darker tan, so.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And, you know, to kind of fall back on Denim Elliott for a minute again as playing Marcus Brody.
Speaker B:I almost forgotten.
Speaker B:Also known for Trading Places.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:That was an excellent movie itself.
Speaker B:Box office and release.
Speaker B:Jump at that for a second here.
Speaker B: ,: Speaker B:I told you earlier, at a budget of 20 million, roughly, the worldwide growth was over $389 million.
Speaker A:It made its money back big time.
Speaker B: The highest grossing film of: Speaker B:It won four Academy Awards.
Speaker B:Art direction, film editing, sound and visual effects, plus special achievement award for sound editing.
Speaker B:So good for it.
Speaker B:I mean, it's not like we got any Oscars out of it.
Speaker B:It wasn't a movie made for Oscars.
Speaker B:I don't guess was It.
Speaker B:Yeah, but you know very, very well, you know, due to the people that made the movie and everything.
Speaker B:To get their work noticed and everything.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker B:Do you have a favorite part of the movie?
Speaker B:You know, I mean, this is such a lot going on in here.
Speaker B:Do you have a favorite scene or a favorite.
Speaker B:Just a.
Speaker B:Just a favorite moment or anything like that?
Speaker A:I don't wanna.
Speaker A:I don't want to say the end of the movie, you know, is one of my favorite parts, because me being a horror.
Speaker A:Me being all about the horror movies and stuff, you know, that whole.
Speaker A:The whole end of the movie is just straight up for.
Speaker A:I mean, it.
Speaker A:It is.
Speaker A:It turns into a horror movie, you know, towards the end of the movie.
Speaker A:But I literally, like.
Speaker A:I've got like, so many favorite things in the movie because, I mean, just the very beginning of it, when the boulders chasing him and he.
Speaker A:And he, like, jumps through the webbing and everything and it comes out at the bottom.
Speaker A:And then all those dudes are just waiting with him, waiting on him with the spears and.
Speaker A:And then he's.
Speaker A:And then you see Belloc and he's all like.
Speaker A:He's reaching down and he.
Speaker A:And then he says that famous line.
Speaker A:What's yours?
Speaker A:What used to be yours is now mine.
Speaker A:And he hands even the idol.
Speaker A:But it's just, you know, that same.
Speaker A:And then going into, like, where they actually found.
Speaker A:When they finally found the ark.
Speaker A:Oh, no.
Speaker A:I'm even skipping stuff.
Speaker A:The whole bar fight scene was.
Speaker A:Was like, super crazy because, you know, you got the.
Speaker A:The German dudes, the German guys, and you got the.
Speaker A:The Himalayan dudes, you know, and.
Speaker B:The Himalayan dudes.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:When he got done with it, he Himalayan for sure, wasn't he?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Well, where was she at, like, when.
Speaker A:That part of the movie.
Speaker B:She was hiding behind the bar.
Speaker A:What country was she in?
Speaker B:They were in Tunisia, I believe.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:So it's like, you know.
Speaker A:You know.
Speaker A:But did he.
Speaker A:Did he notice something?
Speaker A:That was kind of crazy.
Speaker A:I don't know if it was, like a mistake or if it was, because when I.
Speaker A:When I watched it from that part, it was like.
Speaker A:I think what he had done was he had grabbed like a.
Speaker A:Like a.45 pistol off of one of the dudes and.
Speaker A:And like, he's.
Speaker A:He's moving.
Speaker A:He's moving back, moving back and shooting at the same time.
Speaker A:It wasn't that revolver that he has holstered.
Speaker A:It was literally like an automatic.45.
Speaker B:That could be one of those little oops things that they have, I think.
Speaker A:Like, when everything starts to go down.
Speaker A:It looks like he literally, like, grabs a gun off of somebody.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:And I think that's because.
Speaker A:Because at one point, you know, he's got that.45 and he's just emptying the.
Speaker A:I mean, he's just shooting and shooting and shooting, like, unlimited bullets.
Speaker A:And, you know, and then, like I said, the whole bar scene, like words where the big dude tosses him up there on the.
Speaker A:On the top of the bar and he's.
Speaker A:And then she.
Speaker A:And then she's hiding back behind there and she.
Speaker A:She looks up and he's like, whiskey.
Speaker B:Hands in the bottle so he can beat the guy with the head with it.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So the whole thing.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Wasn't she just a bit too calm for somebody whose bar just got burnt?
Speaker A:Yeah, like, dude, I. I would be punching and kicking and screaming all the.
Speaker B:Money she had in there.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:But she was all.
Speaker A:She was all like, well, thank you.
Speaker A:She's saying something like, well, thanks a lot, Indiana Jones, you know?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:She said, you did.
Speaker B:You've always wanted to show a girl a good time.
Speaker A:Never, you know, show a girl to get down.
Speaker A:And then.
Speaker A:And then she's basically like, me and you, we're GD partners.
Speaker B:Going forward.
Speaker B:Yeah, I'm getting my money back.
Speaker B:You know, and I mentioned earlier about that scene where they said the whole crew was sick from food poison.
Speaker B:That's why they ended up shooting the Swordsman instead of doing the other thing, you know, during that filming in Tunisia.
Speaker B:There, it's rumored they said that Steven Spielberg never got sick, and they thought it was because he avoided illnesses by eating only the food he brought with him, which was a lot of cans of SpaghettiOs.
Speaker A:Yeah, I can believe that.
Speaker B:Oh, I'm thinking he brought a can of SpaghettiOs because he know what kind of food he's going to get.
Speaker B:Probably when he got there.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker A:But, like, I mean, like, moving into.
Speaker A:Even past the part with the bar, you know, we're.
Speaker A:We're meeting solid for the first time.
Speaker A:And then he's all like.
Speaker A:He's all like, welcome to paradise.
Speaker A:Welcome to paradise.
Speaker A:Welcome to Cairo.
Speaker A:You know, and then.
Speaker A:And then.
Speaker A:Oh, and then the dago monkey jumps on her shoulder and.
Speaker A:And then Solo's wife is like, what is this.
Speaker A:What is this thing on my table?
Speaker A:And then monkey like.
Speaker A:But one of my favorite parts of the monkey was when it was when its owner was like the.
Speaker A:Doing the.
Speaker A:The salute.
Speaker A:And then.
Speaker A:And then the.
Speaker A:The one.
Speaker A:The German dudes, they kind of salute him.
Speaker A:And then the monkey salutes and one dunham Germany.
Speaker A:He.
Speaker B:Of all things.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Do you know one.
Speaker B:Do you have any iconic scenes in the movie that you, that stands out to you?
Speaker B:If someone says Raiders of the Lost Ark, what's the first scene that comes to your mind?
Speaker A:The, the guy's face melting.
Speaker A:I'm literally like.
Speaker A:I just.
Speaker A:That the, the German dude that had the, that had a damn print.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:When he grabbed the emblem and the bar dude on his face melted, I was like, I was like, forgive me, but holy.
Speaker A:That is crazy.
Speaker A:So I, I mean, I mean I'm used to saying like, like crazy stuff in our movies, but it was just like he's, you know, he's all like.
Speaker B:It's the scream.
Speaker B:It's the scream that goes along with it that stands out.
Speaker A:Y.
Speaker A:And these screaming and then he's gurgling and it's just like.
Speaker B:Just melts apart.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:When, when someone tells me Raiders the Lost Ark, the first scene that comes to mind for me is the boulder coming down at him, chasing him down through the, the pathway.
Speaker B:Yeah, that's, that's always stood out in my mind.
Speaker B:I'm reading about here now.
Speaker B:The famous boulder chase was filmed with a real 12 foot fiberglass boulder.
Speaker B:A real fiberglass boulder.
Speaker B:Real fiberglass prop was rolling down at him.
Speaker B:Says Harrison Ford insisted on doing the stone himself.
Speaker B:So that.
Speaker A:Didn't he do like, like maybe 90 of the stunt work in.
Speaker B:I mean I, I don't know for certain.
Speaker B:Could have.
Speaker B:I haven't seen it.
Speaker B:I haven't seen any kind of percentages listed on how much he did versus anybody else stepping in for him.
Speaker A:But like, I mean, I know the whole part where when he gets tossed out onto the front of the, onto the front of the, the, the truck that's, that's got the arc in it.
Speaker A:I mean literally there they.
Speaker A:I saw behind the scenes on that and that was literally Harrison Ford.
Speaker A:That was like he was pulling part of the grill down, you know, holding on and then he literally like when he goes underneath, I mean and he takes the, he takes the butt of the whip and he puts it right into the exhaust and then it flips him out on the other, other end.
Speaker A:That's him getting dragged.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Like, and, and I was like.
Speaker A:And for, for that big of an actor even back then to actually do a lot of his stunt work, I mean that, that's an accomplishment in my book.
Speaker B:I mean he, he did, he did get hurt in some of the stunt work in there.
Speaker B:Like for example, the part where the out of control airplane actually ran over Harrison Ford's knee tearing a ligament in his left leg says, lucky for him, the heat had turned the rubber tires soft so it didn't crush the bone.
Speaker B:Rather than submit to Tunisian healthcare, Ford had his knee wrapped on ice and carried on.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker B:It says, so he did, you know, he did some of the stunts for sure.
Speaker B:He got, he got hurt doing some of the stunts, it looks like, as well.
Speaker B:The snake pit scene is also memorable.
Speaker A:Ah, yes.
Speaker B:Use 10,000 real snakes.
Speaker B:Production had to ship in extras from around the world.
Speaker B:And like you and I were talking earlier, we had to bring this up.
Speaker B:The, the glass wall between Harrison Ford.
Speaker B:Yeah, right.
Speaker B:And when you're, when you're first watching this movie as a kid, you know, you don't pick up on stuff like that.
Speaker B:You're like, oh, my God.
Speaker A:You're just focused on, like, what's going on.
Speaker B:Yeah, look how close he is, that snake.
Speaker B:There's no way I would ever do that.
Speaker A:No way.
Speaker B:And then, man, just freaky stuff.
Speaker B:But I gotta.
Speaker B:I got a freaky tale for you about that snake thing too.
Speaker B:While filming the snake scene inside the well of Souls, a python bit first assistant director David Tomlin's hand and wouldn't let go.
Speaker A:What?
Speaker B:Tomlin calmly now, this is what gets me.
Speaker B:Ain't nothing calm about me.
Speaker B:First off, being around the snakes.
Speaker B:There's nothing calm about me.
Speaker B:I cannot stand any snakes.
Speaker B:The only, the only good snake is a dead snake and it better be far away from me.
Speaker B:So Tomlin calmly asked someone to grab the python still attached to his hand, by the way, like I said, grab him by the tail and whip it so the snap will send a wave of the snake's body and force it to let go.
Speaker A:Yeah, it did.
Speaker B:A stagehand did just that.
Speaker B:The python released its bite from his hand and Tomlin got medical attention.
Speaker B:The python itself was not injured.
Speaker B:Who cares?
Speaker B:Shoot it.
Speaker B:No, no cares for the snakes whatsoever.
Speaker A:I'm sorry, no cares for the snake.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker B:Zero cares whatsoever for the snakes.
Speaker B:You can.
Speaker B:I wouldn't want anything to do with that.
Speaker B:But yeah, there's, there's a glass thing in between them and you could tell it, you know, when you're older, you kind of, kind of, you kind of see this.
Speaker B:And plus we also saw, you know, some behind the scenes things on that that told us about it too.
Speaker B:But yeah, once it's brought up and you look at it, yeah, you can kind of tell it and everything.
Speaker A:But if you, if you really play, if you really pay close attention to the scene when, when I Can't remember if it was Karen Allen that was on top of Indiana.
Speaker A:She was like.
Speaker A:She was trying to get away from the snakes and then.
Speaker A:And then like she gets knocked loose and she lands on into the sand, right?
Speaker A:And then the cobra is like literally like right up on the glass.
Speaker A:And you can see the shadow of the cobra in the glass.
Speaker A:And then she jumps back and it snaps like at the glass and.
Speaker A:And you know, they had to like cut the sound from it.
Speaker B:Let me tell you, the.
Speaker B:The first time when.
Speaker B:When Indiana Jones falls down and he's down in there and he's looking at that cobra.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I don't care if there's glass or not.
Speaker B:If I'm in there looking at that, I am just.
Speaker B:I'm frozen, you know, I'm like, I don't know if I can move at this point.
Speaker B:Just look at that.
Speaker B:That would freak me out for sure.
Speaker B:That's crazy.
Speaker B:Anyway, yeah, I.
Speaker B:Very iconic scenes.
Speaker B:Boulder riding snakes and everything.
Speaker A:Like, like you said, even the airplane scene, like where the big.
Speaker A:A big German dude comes all out and he's all like big and buff and.
Speaker A:But I don't know if you noticed it, but it's like even in the other Indiana Jones movies, like, like the whole, like just when he's.
Speaker A:When.
Speaker A:When Indiana has just got.
Speaker A:Oh, God.
Speaker A:Oh boy.
Speaker A:And he just like.
Speaker A:I mean, he just nailing him in the face and you can literally like the crunches of those punches.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:Just hitting that dude.
Speaker A:I mean it.
Speaker A:It echoed through my dagum TV like.
Speaker A:Like the.
Speaker A:Like it was right behind me.
Speaker A:Yeah, I think the sound quality was just top notch back then.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker B:Do you remember when he's cracking that whip at people and everything makes that snapping sounds?
Speaker B:Did you ever know where they.
Speaker B:Where they made this?
Speaker B:Where the sound come from that they made for the whip?
Speaker B:What did it consist of?
Speaker A:Was it like wherever hit metal or.
Speaker B:Nope, you got a.
Speaker B:They're using a 30.
Speaker B:30 Winchester rifle shot.
Speaker A:Really?
Speaker B:And it's mixed with other sounds as well.
Speaker B:That's what makes the cracking sound of his whip when it smashes down.
Speaker A:Wow, that's cool.
Speaker B:And we know we use that several times.
Speaker B:Like when he's trying to ward off some of the people, when he's chasing after Mary and trying to catch her back or get her back with her.
Speaker B:And at the beginning of it, when he's looking, you know, to.
Speaker B:When he's going in and looking for the.
Speaker B:The idol at the beginning of the movie, their filming locations, not only was Tunisia, but also in Hawaii, the uk and the UK as well.
Speaker B:And like I mentioned earlier, Tunisia's heat caused multiple crew members illnesses.
Speaker A:Like that when they were.
Speaker A:When they were filming the stuff that.
Speaker A:Were they really in Cairo?
Speaker A:Like in Egypt?
Speaker A:You know, the whole well of Souls and the sand.
Speaker B:And I. I think that was in Tunisia where they were filming at.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:That's where all that came from.
Speaker A:I was kind of wondering because, you know, you know, he says, you know, welcome to the.
Speaker A:You know, welcome to Cairo.
Speaker A:And, you know, I was like.
Speaker A:I was kind of like, well, that's.
Speaker A:That's part of Egypt.
Speaker A:So, I mean.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:But like you said, I. I guess it was cheaper to film in Tunisia than it was in actual Cairo.
Speaker B:We mentioned this earlier, and we figured we'll go ahead and jump on some of these questions here for a little bit before time runs out on us today.
Speaker B:But how would the movie have been different, you think, if Tom Selleck had played Indiana Jones?
Speaker B:We.
Speaker B:We kind of touched on it earlier about how it could have gone a completely different way.
Speaker B:But how different do you think it would have been?
Speaker B:I mean, what type of character would we have had out of Indiana Jones?
Speaker B:And would the action have seemed as genuine to you?
Speaker A:I. I think the action would have probably been there, but, you know, Harrison Ford and Tom Selleck, two different actors.
Speaker A:I mean, we would have got a. I think it would have been more of a. I don't want to say a more serious type movie with Tom Selleck, but, I mean.
Speaker A:I mean, you.
Speaker A:With Harrison Ford, you still got that seriousness, but you also got that playfulness, too.
Speaker A:I'm just.
Speaker A:I mean, could you.
Speaker A:Could you really see Tom Selleck just standing there and just looking at a boy with the sword and pull the gun out and shooting?
Speaker B:I can see that because it reminds me of some of his Western kind of things, you know, some of the sarcasm and Quigley with some stuff he did.
Speaker B:I. I could kind of see that scene.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:But I have a hard time picturing him doing the adventure stuff, like going for the idol, you know, taking his whip and hitting something and swinging across the little gap.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I have a harder time seeing him in that position or.
Speaker A:Or.
Speaker A:Or him being.
Speaker A:Or him being as big as he was, you know, like the whole part with, you know, after Indies got the idol and he's running across and all those.
Speaker A:All those darts are coming out of the wall and.
Speaker A:And he's.
Speaker A:And Indy's just kind of maneuvering through everything, you know, and the darts are just.
Speaker A:Kind of.
Speaker A:Some of the darts are hitting his Jacket and then they're kind of reflecting.
Speaker A:It was basically like he was shielding himself, running across there with his jacket.
Speaker A:So could you see Tom Selleck, as big as he is, like.
Speaker A:Like doing that scene?
Speaker A:I mean, not me.
Speaker B:I mean, it's just, you know, some things definitely would have been different, and I don't know if it would.
Speaker B:If different would have been better.
Speaker B:I. I don't think that it definitely wouldn't very.
Speaker B:A very different movie for sure.
Speaker B:And I don't think it would have been for the better in any way.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Let'S see.
Speaker B:The ark itself, it's Ascend the dark is central to the story.
Speaker B:Yes, but it's more of a mystical element than an active plot device in the movie, being that the movie's called Raiders of the Lost Ark.
Speaker B:And, you know, did this.
Speaker B:Did this quite work for you?
Speaker B:You know, did you.
Speaker B:Did you.
Speaker B:I know it's not something we would have thought of as a kid watching it, but looking back on as an adult, does it work for you that the arc is not, you know, like a bigger part of the movie?
Speaker B:It seemed like I.
Speaker A:The thing is, I think the arc was definitely.
Speaker A:It was in the movie just enough.
Speaker B:I mean, the idea.
Speaker B:The idea is to find the ark.
Speaker B:It's arc driven, but I mean, and.
Speaker A:Then when they found.
Speaker A:And then when they found the Ark, then the arc, Then it's all about the Ark.
Speaker A:So, you know, you know, transform the ark, you know, you know, by.
Speaker A:By suffering, you know, and then, you know, Indiana Jones and Marion on the boat, you know, and then, you know, so Marion gets captured, you know, Andy leaves the boat, he's on the sub, and then, you know, so it's basically the sub pulls into the little, like the island or whatever it is that they're gonna open the Ark, you know, and see what.
Speaker A:What.
Speaker A:See what tablets are still in there and everything.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And it's basically like Belloc said it.
Speaker A:Some said it the best when Indies.
Speaker A:When Indy's got the rocket launcher on there and he's getting ready to blow it up.
Speaker A:He's like, you want to see what's in this as much as I do.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:Yeah, and he did.
Speaker A:He.
Speaker A:He literally wanted to see what if.
Speaker A:If it was actually, you know, the actual tick.
Speaker A:The.
Speaker A:The tablets itself had survived that long.
Speaker B:Could you find.
Speaker B:Did you think of anybody who wouldn't want to know what's in there, though?
Speaker B:Yeah, I mean, the curiosity, you know that old saying, curiosity kills the cat.
Speaker B:Literally.
Speaker A:They kill a lot of.
Speaker B:Yeah, literally killed a lot of Them.
Speaker B:Don't look, Mary, and don't open your eyes.
Speaker A:Yeah, dude, man.
Speaker A:And, and, but my thing is, how did he know?
Speaker A:How did he know?
Speaker A:Like, at first.
Speaker A:At first their eyes are open and they're looking.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:But then.
Speaker A:But then when you see like the weird, like the, the cameras start getting destroyed and you see all the.
Speaker A:You see all these little weird floaty lights and everything and, and then that.
Speaker A:And then that's basically when he's thinking, you know, this ain't good.
Speaker B:Well, you remember earlier in the movie when Brody is talking to him and he's like, come on, Marcus.
Speaker B:You know, I don't believe in that magic, you know, focus and stuff.
Speaker B:I think their conversation carrying forward to now real time when the arc is there and being opened.
Speaker B:He's now second guessing and rethinking his thing about the magical part of it and, you know, knowing what's going on and hearing all the crazy noises and sounds and seeing the.
Speaker B:The change of the.
Speaker B:How the sky is changing and everything.
Speaker B:He was like, you know, don't look, you know, whatever you do, because you know what's gonna happen.
Speaker B:And she doesn't look and he don't look.
Speaker B:They don't see what's coming their way.
Speaker B:And then, you know, you just.
Speaker B:If something happens, it happens and it's over with, you know.
Speaker A:I thought one of the creepiest parts was like, I think they still had their eyes open, but if you remember, there was like that little like spirit thing that like the minute was starting to kind of like come out of the.
Speaker A:The ark and it was kind of flowing over that one little weird spirit thing came out and it hopped on that dude's back and it was just like terrorizing him and everything.
Speaker A:And it looked like it was getting ready to like, burn it.
Speaker A:It would look.
Speaker A:It basically looked like it was about to burn his skull.
Speaker A:I mean, it's got his weird little hands all over him and everything.
Speaker A:And I'm like.
Speaker B:And, you know, everything didn't look that bad until the little ghost like thing is floating back up to where Ward Belloc and the.
Speaker B:It kind of arches its back and looks up and it's like a normal face.
Speaker B:And suddenly it goes like an evil looking face.
Speaker A:Turns into a grime raper.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Scares him to death, has him screaming.
Speaker B:Then everybody's faces start melting and everything.
Speaker A:Well, it.
Speaker A:The.
Speaker A:The one German dude and the other German dude, their faces melt, but Bellot gets basically engulfed in fire and then his head explodes.
Speaker A:And then that's when.
Speaker A:But that.
Speaker A:That was so Crazy.
Speaker A:Like that whole scene, it's like, you know, you see like, the fire and everything come rolling out of the ark and it just comes down and consumes, like, all the people that it just killed.
Speaker A:And you see the fire, you know, running, like, roaming around.
Speaker A:Indian Marion.
Speaker A:And they're screaming and.
Speaker A:But their eyes are still closed.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And then the flames just kind of go back.
Speaker A:They go back, you know, towards the ark, and then they go up and then it blows a big hole in the.
Speaker A:In the.
Speaker A:In the clouds.
Speaker A:And then.
Speaker A:And then basically you see the.
Speaker A:You see the top of the ark and it's getting, like, pushed up in a whirlwind.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And then.
Speaker A:Then the flames come down and then the top comes down and seals and.
Speaker A:And then you just hear that crack of thunder in the background.
Speaker A:And then.
Speaker A:Then they're like.
Speaker A:They're kind of opening.
Speaker A:They're kind of opening their eyes and.
Speaker A:And then the dude, Andy Harrison Ford, it looked like he was pouring sweat.
Speaker A:I mean, like, you.
Speaker A:You knew.
Speaker A:It was like they.
Speaker A:They either made a look that it was like that hot, or it might have been just.
Speaker A:It was that hot.
Speaker B:What do you.
Speaker B:Well, Well, I lost my question.
Speaker B:What action set piece is your favorite in the movie?
Speaker B:The boulder chase, the truck sequence, or the snake pit?
Speaker B:If you had to choose between the.
Speaker A:Three, it had to be the.
Speaker A:It had to be the part with the.
Speaker A:The truck.
Speaker A:I literally.
Speaker A:That's like my favorite part.
Speaker B:It's a good scene.
Speaker B:It's a good part to pick.
Speaker B:Definitely a part.
Speaker B:The.
Speaker B:The boulder scene.
Speaker B:Like I said, when people mention Raiders of the Lost Ark, that's the first scene that comes to mind to me when I think of things.
Speaker B:So I mean, that right there to, for me, might be because I hate snakes.
Speaker B:I don't want to think or look at the snakes.
Speaker A:You know, I mean, I think it's almost a toss up, but.
Speaker A:Because I really like the plane scene also.
Speaker A:Because, I mean, like I said, when.
Speaker A:When he's.
Speaker A:When he's whooping old boy.
Speaker A:Oh, German dude, man.
Speaker A:And just like.
Speaker A:I mean, just that solid.
Speaker A:Just punches, you know, and then.
Speaker A:And then Indy, like, he smiles and he hits the ground and though German dude turns around and the.
Speaker A:And the propeller eats his face off.
Speaker A:I mean.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:Did you.
Speaker B:Now, the boulder scene, since we were talking about this, I mentioned.
Speaker B:That's the one that kind of sticks up for me.
Speaker B:Harrison Ford actually outran the boulder in the opening sequence.
Speaker B:Because the scene was shot twice from five different angles.
Speaker B:He had to outrun this boulder 10 times.
Speaker B:He said Ford stumble in the scene was deemed to look authentic and was left in.
Speaker B:But, yeah, 10 different times, you gotta do this thing.
Speaker B:Very crazy.
Speaker B:Moving on to the next one, what do you think makes Indiana Jones such an enduring character?
Speaker B:Would you say, you know, his flaws, his charm, or the crazy little adventure style that he's always getting into?
Speaker A:I mean, for me, for me growing up with these movies, it's.
Speaker A:I want to say he's just that man's man kind of character.
Speaker A:Like, you know, he's, he's a little flawed.
Speaker A:He's, you know, but he, he's just an icon.
Speaker A:I mean, he's, it's like, it's like, you know how, you know, Bruce will always be, you know, that icon of like the, you know, the Die Hard movies, right?
Speaker B:John McLean.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:John McClean.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And, you know, Harrison Ford.
Speaker A:You know, I mean, Harrison Ford, he's.
Speaker A:He's got two iconic roles.
Speaker B:See, I was about to ask you, can you tell the difference in Han Solo?
Speaker A:I can definitely tell the big difference between the two just because, you know, Han Solo is a different type of role than versus Indiana Jones.
Speaker B:To me, the difference in the two is Han Solo is cocky and Indiana Jones is just.
Speaker B:He's not quirky, but he's kind of, he, he's got that kind of charm, a similar charm that Han Solo had.
Speaker B:All right, but he's, he's, he's the charm of Han Solo without the cockiness involved with it.
Speaker A:And, and the, and I hate to say it, but the awkward running.
Speaker A:It's just, it's crazy how he would, how, how Indiana Jones would always run.
Speaker A:But if you notice, like, even in the, Even in the Star wars movies, like when, like when Han Solo and Chewbacca are aboard the Death Star, you know, it's like, you know, when he fires the, when he fires the blaster into that one stormtrooper and, and you know, looking later right there, and he's like, get to the ship.
Speaker A:He's like.
Speaker A:And he's like, what are you gonna do, huh?
Speaker A:And he's like, ah, he's running with the blaster.
Speaker A:That same little run is, Is almost the same as it was in Indiana Jones.
Speaker A:It's just that little, that little, that little trot that he did.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, no, I see what you're saying.
Speaker B:Two more quick questions for you and then we'll go and wrap everything up.
Speaker B:Which one I want to go with first here?
Speaker B:Let's see.
Speaker B:Okay, well, we'll leave the other one for last.
Speaker B:This one.
Speaker B:How Has Raiders of the Lost Ark influenced modern action adventure films such as the Mummy, National Treasure, and Tomb Raider?
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:I mean, it's kind of weird if you.
Speaker A:Actually, I can see more National Treasure than, than any of those other ones like Tomb Raider or the Mummy.
Speaker B:I wouldn't have included the Mummy.
Speaker B:It's just, it was, it was the actual question brought up, so I didn't think the Mummy has anything to do with it, to be honest with you.
Speaker B:Tomb Raider, however, being that there's, you're actually looking for something that's treasured.
Speaker B:Yeah, obviously, obviously, National Treasure, it's fully.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I don't know, it's just, it's, it's hard.
Speaker A:I mean, they're both really good movies, but if, if I were to pick a favorite, it would be like Indiana Jones over National Treasure.
Speaker A:I mean, but I know they're, they're very similar, but, but it just felt like, in my opinion, National Treasure, if it wasn't a Disney movie and not so watered down, I think it would have been a better movie then, you know, and then you could really compare the two.
Speaker B:I think if I'm looking at it as a, as a, as a way of influence.
Speaker B:I think the way that Raiders of the Lost Ark influenced the movies was giving it that, that treasure hunt style and feel to it where, you know, there's gonna be, there's, there's, there's traps set in place, there's pitfalls along the way that you're gonna find and run into.
Speaker B:There's, there's the dangers, you know, such as running into like the snakes and stuff, or people trying to kill you to get to the thing you're trying to get to first or something.
Speaker B:Which happens along with National Treasure as well, when the Ian character and his group are trying to catch up to Nicholas Cage's group who already have the upper hand on because he's the historian that knows about all these things.
Speaker B:And I think that's where I see the influence at at least.
Speaker B:Anyway, I, it's, it's not that I pick one as a favorite over the other, but I think Indiana Jones did a good job of influence and in what direction they take those other movies that have more like treasure hunt style themes to them and everything.
Speaker B:And then lastly, we're gonna go with the favorite here, you know.
Speaker B:Do you think Raiders of the Lost Ark is the best Indiana Jones film or does another entry in the franchise top it?
Speaker B:I think both of us already said already.
Speaker A:I'm, I'm definitely gonna Say Indiana Jones and Last Crusade is my, is my first pick.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Hands down, the favorite.
Speaker A:Hands down, my favorite.
Speaker A:Yes, Raiders comes right in, right after that one.
Speaker A:I mean, it's, it's literally like Last Crusade writers of the Lost art.
Speaker A:Then, I don't know, it's kind of a toss up between Kingdom of the Crystal Skull and Dial of Destiny.
Speaker A:But, but if I were to pick on one more than the other, it would definitely be Dial of Destiny because that, that one really had a good.
Speaker A:A really, really good story.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And then, and then it would be Temple of Doom and then Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.
Speaker A:That was my least favorite.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:Yeah, even though, even even though Kingdom of the Crystal Skull had some really cool scenes, I mean, it did.
Speaker A:It had some really cool scenes.
Speaker A:It just, I don't know, storyline just kind of fell apart.
Speaker A:You know, it just.
Speaker A:It started off good and then towards the end, it was like you didn't know.
Speaker A:You didn't know if these cats were aliens or.
Speaker A:But then, but then when Ox finally comes out of, you know, out of being, you know, all that kind of where the skull had like taken over, taken over his mind, he basically said that, that the, that the creatures were three dimensional beings from another plane of existence.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:So you really couldn't call them aliens.
Speaker A:They were kind of part of like maybe the multiverse.
Speaker B:Well, I would definitely, definitely, truly say that the Last Crusade, Indiana Jones and Last Crusades, hands down my favorite film of the other franchise.
Speaker B:And I'll just leave it at that, let's say.
Speaker B:Yeah, you did a really good job of explaining the others.
Speaker B:I don't have to go back and reiterate any of that because you nailed it on it.
Speaker B:You know, I mean, I, I do kind of like, you know, Temple of Doom, though, a little bit better than I like the Crystal Skull.
Speaker B:So I think that I might rank that one a little bit higher than it, but that'd be the only other one.
Speaker B:So any, any closing remarks you got for the movie or anything, Any recommendations or things you want to say about it to wrap it up on that?
Speaker A:Definitely watch it.
Speaker A:If you've never seen writers of the Lost Ark, you need to watch it.
Speaker B:Even if you've watched the others, you got to see where it started.
Speaker B:You got to watch the original for sure.
Speaker B:All right, well, that's a wrap on Raiders of the Lost Ark.
Speaker B:From the rolling boulders and snake pits to Harrison Ford's iconic fedora and whip, the film didn't just entertain, it changed the adventure genre forever.
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